Ambiance GNOME theme bugbears and what can be done about them

Btw here’s the desktop team Trello card for Ambiance fixes and there’s a sidebar fix here ( not sure it fixes whatever you lot are talking about as an issue but it’s something, they’re working on stuff! :stuck_out_tongue: ).

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I don’t have a problem with the Files sidebar.

Neither I, I rather like it as it differentiates it more than before.

– OOPS wrong thread –

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In general I like the darker sidebar. The separation of icon from text, however, does not work. And the sidebar being the same shade as the headerbar makes it look like you can drag from there - a different shade (darker, or lighter) would have been better.

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Do you have any ideas for how you can make it more clickable? I’d love to hear.

Ohhh, this (the post I’m replying to) is the nautilus sidebar issue (with icon backgrounds different to the text backgrounds)! I forgot about this… Yeah the merge request I linked doesn’t fix this particular issue… Is this not present in Adwaita on Ubuntu 18.04? If not then I guess it is a bug that needs fixing…

Just a short question: is anyone working on Radiance?
In Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, it has started looking quite lovely as of late:

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Yes. That would be @3v1n0 making changes to the theme recently:
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-themes/16.10+18.04.20180328-0ubuntu1

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I concur after reading comments like this one (and I didn’t notice the change so my previous comment saying this this is OK was a mistake), @3v1n0 could you confirm with Canonical’s design team that this is a good move?

Some people do seem to like it (see, e.g. some of the replies to this tweet), so if Canonical does decide to settle on this then it’s not without its support, as angry as some people may get about the design :joy:

I feel it is just another wave of reaction to change… any change! I like it - I must admit . :smiley:
You will always find people that are angry about something anyway… :wink:

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What I found most surprising was that the design is different from this one :thinking:
https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/desktop-design/issues/28

I already expressed that I don’t like the new sidebar. I don’t understand why it needed a change at all. Is the user experience improved?
We all want Ambiance in it’s best shape for it’s (hopefully) last relase as the default theme. IMO this is beyond tweaking and fine-tuning. Hopefully they (not exactly sure who they are) will reconsider.

https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/ubuntu-ambiance-gtk-theme.jpg

Here it looks like ‘Recent’, ‘Home’, ‘Desktop’, etc. are sub-items of a tab which has a home icon. It’s confusing!

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Maybe it’s a decision that takes place for pleasing those who are disappointed by the fact that community theme can’t be the default in 18.04. As if to say : you wanted some change? - you’ve got it! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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No, this has nothing to with reacting to any change. Multiple people have stated that the sidebar now looks like 2 levels of hierarchy - the icons being the 1st, and then the text being sub-categories of the icon. Which of course is not the case here. I like the dark sidebar - it looks nice - just not the separating of icon and text. It makes no sense.

Also, why fix what wasn’t broken - and leave tabs/notebooks still broken?

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I for one, quite like the new sidebar design, however as a primarily Adwaita user find the rest of the Nautilus theming completely inconsistent, but maybe that’s why I live in vanilla GNOME land :wink:

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Would like to know the same, it is not obvious how the new sidebar is a improvement. The confusing part with this redesign is that the separation of icons and labels make it look like all the labels belong to the selected icon.

I respect your opinion @CraigD, even though my own is different. I can’t see the usability issue. It’s A Design per Ce for me and I like it.
Not saying anything about other fixes that should be taking care of. Not related too.

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Hi @3v1n0, just noticed you are working on the Ambiance theme. May I ask you is there a chance to make the window control button easier to click. Someone has reported it as bug 1693609. I also wrote my situation in this thread, with a small screen, they are harder to click than other buttons. Please pardon me if I troubles you.:slightly_smiling_face:

@venorz I have the same issue. Hitting the close, maximize and minimize buttons is very hard to impossible using a touchscreen (Thinkpad X230 Tablet)

Really happy about that, I prefer it compared to Ambiance.

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Hello everyone! I wass thinking for the side and top bars. There is an uncomfortable detail when maximizing windows. The sidebar receives the color that is highlighted, but the upper bar of the windows are gray. Perhaps it will be interesting to leave all the bars receiving the highlighted color.

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