It looks pretty slick.
Though this is a little awkward, I think.
It looks pretty slick.
Though this is a little awkward, I think.
Already looks better, I was using a 0 2px 5px with 0.50 opaque, because on light wallpapers it was too present.
And I would like to have an opaque top panel (was using 0.80 with 37,35,35) and not too dark like Gnome. So the wallpaper shines a little thru which is nice and on dark wallpapers the panel does not just disappear in black. But maybe even 37,35,35 could be too dark, needs more testing.
The color combinations work for me, nice and clean! On your reference picture you can also find the buttons I prefer, I try to get rid of the borders around buttons to fit the overall design and work with layers and shadows instead.
In the case of the breadcrumbs, it’s getting too dark and the background layer of “Working” will melt together with the background on cheap monitors. Like said on the dark background we have to use light layers to separate and hold the contrast. If it is not working at all, I would try a middle/light grey for the border or a soft shadow if possible.
I already know that they discussed the Ubuntu logo instead of the “Activities” text, but they said that this not a good idea because of the official documentation and Ubuntu/Gnome help documents/website. I’m also not sure how it will look and feel… did you try to include it next to the right corner icons instead of the on/off and arrow icons?
And what about the widgets and elements: do you build them or can I build them and send it to you to try them?
Thanks, good feeling to make progress here
I like the darker panel more. The idea behind a plain black panel for Adwaita is that it blends into the monitor’s bezels. The top panel should be something thats fades into the background when you’re not interacting with it. I don’t think it needs too much highlighting.
In the following mockups, I removed the panel shadow since it made the titlebar of maximized programs look too blurry and replaced it with a black border ( which is more obvious depending on the wallpaper or when a window is maximized). I kept the panel at #181818 with an alpha value of .95. The dash is the same color but the alpha value is 0.90 instead.
When a window is maximized the dash stays the same and the panel becomes opaque. You can see the black border separating the headerbar from the panel. I used a box-shadow here as a border would make the panel 1px taller.
I find that without the borders and with a lower contrast background (your example here uses a much lighter background color) that the button blends into the background too much. The buttons also look much darker than in your example. I’ll play around with a lighter color because while I do get your worries about too high contrast I also don’t want things to look dingy.
Good point.
The top right corner only shows system and app indicators, there’s no way to insert the Ubuntu logo there. In contrast to the wifi, bluetooth and other indicators it’ll just be a passive icon, too. It won’t be best place to put it.
A few days ago I did this mockup but didn’t have time to post it. I guess some of the elements that have been discussed in this thread by @godlyranchdressing and @luxamman havn’t been taken into consideration.
+1 for a darker theme (dark headerbar but light window content) like Ambiance which add to the “this looks like Ubuntu” feeling.
I know the breadcrumb-thing isn’t working out
I really like Aarons work on Desktop_V9Dec17
Desktop_11Dec17
And some comments:
hey @madsrh
just a quick respond from me about the mockup:
Stefan
+1 Right, I would prefer the Suru style too.
Using too much space? There’s plenty of space to take Anyway, I think the Ambiance buttons are too close. There’s nothing more annoying than hitting the close button when you were aming for the max button. I’ve been checking out the competition too and M$ uses a 3:2 aspect ratio. Also check @merlijn-sebrechts comment below:
I did a poor job explaining myself there - it’s not the actual size, but how they feel. The lever doesn’t have to fill half the button (looks less bulky) and by giving the toggle a border it’s easier to distinguish it from the background. In the image below the white lever bleends into the light gray background.
Yes, that is true, in Ambiance they are too close. It’s just in the mockup they look too space consuming, like for touchscreens or people who can’t handle the mouse just jocking^^
I like the idea of making them little bigger or give them more space but just not overdo it, it will look less elegant too. Ubuntu uses the space next to them, Windows is not. So if necessary, we should rather orient to macOS.
Maybe when we loosen things up a little by getting rid of the min/max frame it will look better? I have them in the new mockup for the buttons as well.
I tried some more buttons, but still, I like the soft shadow behind the elements best for separating them from the back. The switches have more shadow too, to separate better on white. Also, I shrunk down the switches to stay in the frame of the switch-element to see how it can look. The elements are always exactly the same, the shadow and borders just visually disappear on the dark background. But the white background is more important now:
While I like a lot the dark palette for the headerbars, I wonder if it is not too much when the window is maximized. I mean, we would have a big chunk of black made by the topbar, headerbars (that are thick) and the dock.
(I made a little mistake pushing my changes to the main repository instead of to my fork, sorry about that).
The shadows behind the buttons look great!
Yeah, it’s just this wall of darkness. I’m using #373735 for the headerbar and leaving the Shell stuff at #181818 and it’s not as egregious. I’ll test out some different shades for the headerbar (but will lower the transparency)
PS: we can add a custom logo to the “communitheme” team in launchpad. If anyone cooks something up, let me know.
What about using different colors for vertical (dock) and horizontal (topbar, headerbar) widgets instead? This week I’ll try to catch up with you all and test directly on .scss/css files.
The last days I was experimenting with headerbar’s colors and button shapes.
It seemed a bit odd to me that having headerbar’s buttons all squared except the three ones “close, minimize and maximize”, and the close button always colored was a bit distracting, so I tried the following:
My only problem with that grey is that it looks more like Android than Ubuntu. I think we can solve some of the problems with using a dark headerbar before lightening it. I’ve been playing with colors closer to Ambiance’s brown while adjusting the look of the buttons themselves. I also scrapped the transparency.
#383634
#3E3E3A (Ambiance color with transparency, but the buttons start to look too bright)
I guess you’re right, but we can make it more brown-ish. In general, I think that we need to find a color that could fit the topbar as well.
What do you think about styling the close button only when in hover state?
I’m Karl, Visual designer working at Canonical.
This week myself and fellow visual designers are having a Ubuntu theme refresh workshop to work through the design takes @willcooke posted a few weeks ago here: https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/desktop-design/issues
Are you both on GitHub? If so could you send me your handle please?
Thanks
Hello karlos,
should be Luxamman and madsrh
Thanks!
Breadcrumbs
Here’s a few suggestions:
And a few thoughts to go along:
@godlyranchdressing I really like the Unity8 style tabs too, but I can’t seem to transfer the concept. If only Gnome would replace breadcrumbs with an addressbar
@luxamman and @madsrh: Note that this list that we did with @willcooke and the design team is from the current Ambiance theme, note the new community one. It might be a source of inspiration for you guys
I personally like #2 and #3 (or a mix of them), but I also remember @godlyranchdressing saying that that the bottom border color does not work fine in stackswitcher (which is similar to breadcrumbs).